Talk:True Seeing

example for how True Seeing effects blindness

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0428.html

Why enforce these misleading in game descriptions, As per the Game Manual and 3.5ed there is no such comment about spoting hidden opponents. Well at least it doesn't mention Ethereal.

need confirmation; True Seeing when Blinded, are you still able to cast spells and or use a scroll?Ragimund (talk) 01:40, October 7, 2018 (UTC) No need; as NWN2 Blindness is like the D&D Wiki version and only Partial Blindness, more for disabling targeting of opponents and not preventing casting or reading scrolls. Ragimund (talk)

I don't rely on comics as a source to verify game mechanics.  Do you have any evidence that True Seeing spots opponents that are hidden using mundane means, such as stealth? No, because its simply not true. Do you understand my comments, I've not suggested it did? Can a blind person function better with True Seeing;Yes, I'd rather have it than See Invisible.Ragimund (talk) 07:02, October 20, 2018 (UTC) In case it's difficult to follow. Why does Haley asks Sangwaanl "Do you see anything?" if the Wizard Sangwaanl is blind? The same reason why Sangwaanl is the only one who can see Zykon. True Seeing. ie, if you're blind True Seeing is a good option. Ragimund (talk)

The spell gives no indication it allows you to cast spells when blinded, only that it allows the spell recipient to spot opponents hidden or concealed by magical means, including magically induced blindness.  If you find otherwise, please let us know. Raelind (talk) 02:19, October 20, 2018 (UTC) Yeah, thats why I ask if someone knows. I am usually too busy just attacking. Ragimund (talk) 07:02, October 20, 2018 (UTC)  Fair enough.  I'll test it in the next few days and let you knowRaelind (talk) 19:49, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Somehow the ability "notices secret doors hidden by magic" from True Seeing 3.5, which also works in NWN2. Is translated into the in game description as spotting hidden opponents. Which doesn't work, unless referring to Invisible as hidden and not stealth. Ragimund (talk) 05:53, December 12, 2019 (UTC) Regardless that Notes have been adjusted to be consistent with the rest of the effects, perhaps only to keep the description consistently poor. You'll still need True seeing in the Archives to reveal the secret doors. https://www.gamebanshee.com/neverwinternights2/walkthrough/neverwinterarchives.php Ragimund (talk)

I guess the devs have been playing DDO when they wrote that.. It does detect secret doors there. Kidna of overpowered though, since it works at a large range, even if you aren't looking at the door, so makes taking a long a rogue for the spot and search skills kinda pointless. Eleventeen128 (talk) 10:41, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Its a valued spell but Spot and Search are very different counters, what triggered that perception? ~~

They are in NWN yea. But kinda replying to the pnp comparison: Tons of DMs use spot to note secret doors, it just makes sense. Nowadays with 5.0, it's usually a perception check, which is more less spot. Search is more or less investigation. And yea in Dungeons and Dragons online, also based on 3.5e, spot was really only useful to spot traps and secret doors. The search skill only revealed them, you still had to spot to figure out where to search, as the search aoe radius was small. The way it handled traps was ages ahead of how NWN does. But yea the game had no real pvp and monsters almost never stealthed, so true seeing was fine to see everything. so it was not valued at all for anti stealth purposes. --Eleventeen128 (talk) 14:33, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Well the DDO description is far better than this Wiki. https://ddowiki.com/page/True_Seeing_(spell) Ragimund (talk)